USC Mailbag: Can Clay Helton Save His Job?

Clay Helton is still USC's football coach. Will that change next week? Let's get into the questions.
ok, i get that Bohn has just come in and Folt likes that there is an adult in the room so to speak with Helton as coach, but come on man. how can they possibly sell a Helton return to the fans and boosters?
— Cee Williams (@ceesportstweets) November 27, 2019
The biggest thing you can sell is the team, which improved by three wins over 2018, closed out 2019 winning five of six, and returns all but a handful of starters between offense and defense in 2020. I sincerely believe next season can be a big one. But there’s not an obvious way to sell Clay Helton himself, which is why recruiting and attendance plummeted and have yet to recover. Winning is a bottom line, but so is money. And that’s why I have a hard time believing they’d bring him back.
If you hated Clay Helton on a personal level, would you tell us so on the podcast?
— Roy Townsend (@myDhasSECsize) November 27, 2019
You’d definitely know if I wasn’t fond of him. I’m pretty upfront, perhaps to a fault. But the reality is he’s the most genuine coach I’ve ever covered. Impossible to dislike on a personal level. I think that trait coupled with his work ethic is why USC is trying to honor him in how it handles this situation.
What is the over/under in points for an Alabama victory if the weak practices under Helton continue? Can we stay within 40?
— Richard Cavallero (@RMC805) November 27, 2019
So, I’m not at all expecting Saban-Helton II. But to answer your question, if it were to happen, I guarantee USC wouldn’t lose by 40 to Alabama next September. I’m already bullish on the 2020 Trojans, regardless of their head coach. This team is going to be good. It might be great. Assuming USC's key players are available for the opener, I think that could be a great game.
Who should be the next defensive coordinator? Clancy needs to go.
— John San (@axsanb64) November 27, 2019
This is a really good question that requires some digging and research. Will touch on this topic soon. Because if Helton has any chance of coming back, he most certainly would have to replace Clancy Pendergast.
Why is our recruiting so awful, even in our down years we always had a top 25 class. Are recruits done with @USCCoachHelton incompetence?
— ilpadroni (@elMachoGabriel) November 27, 2019
More or less. Recruiting was submarined by Lynn Swann presenting Helton as a lame duck in 2019. You’d need the AD to make it crystal clear that the head coach is in the university’s long-term plans to reverse the situation. But with Helton, he’d need to have another top-10 season before such a declaration would even be made. That’s the obvious danger in running this all back. You’re threatening to spoil a second class, which is exponentially worse when compounded with a previous class. It could hold the program back for a few years.
I don’t believe he’ll do that. He knows his own future and legacy are entirely tied to this hire. Moreover, I’ve been told repeatedly, and as recently as this week, that USC intends to make a coaching change.
What recruits flip to USC if Urbie is hired ?
— PacificPalisades1 (@PPalisades1) November 27, 2019
I happened to write about this scenario back in October. A few of the notable prospects to watch are linebacker Justin Flowe, running back Kendall Milton, wide receiver Gary Bryant and maybe quarterback Bryce Young, although his position is wide open at Alabama and certainly not at USC. But this is a good place to start. Time is running out, though.
Will Ben Griffiths be back? 🇦🇺
— USC Twittter (@USCtwiiter) November 27, 2019
Not sure why he wouldn’t be. He’s a redshirt freshman.
Over! A new coach will improve attendance immediately, if not significantly.
How sick are you and the other press of the Urban frenzy
— Marcelo Teson (@MTeson) November 27, 2019
We haven’t even gotten started yet.
Favorite breakout players for next year who redshirted this year?
— Z-Co (@twiggydig) November 27, 2019
It’s harder to project these right now because we weren’t allowed to watch practice during the season. I should have a much better idea during spring. But WR Kyle Ford and DB Max Williams immediately come to mind. I’ve had people on the team tell me Williams is their best nickel. Don't sleep on WR Munir McClain, either. He played five games before getting injured, so he can't redshirt. But he's one to watch.
I’m also curious about DT De’jon Benton, LBs Maninoa Tufono and Tuasivi Nomura and TE Jude Wolfe, although their paths to the playing field aren’t as obvious. And then we just have to see what happens with WR Bru McCoy, who’s yet to practice since transferring back to USC.
Has the Urban Meyer ship sailed?
— Scott M (@scottmmcgregor) November 27, 2019
There’s been a lot of conflicting info on this front, particularly with whether Urban Meyer wants to coach next season. The only consistent message I’ve heard is that USC donors are pushing for him. Interestingly, I had more than one source tell me this week there was dialogue between the two sides with the intention of meeting.
I get that Bohn is waiting to see if Utah will/won’t win on Saturday, but why wait for the outcome of another team to determine if he will pull the plug or not on Helton? especially with early signing day fast approaching. Why not rip the bandaid off now?
— All Day Trojans (@AllTrojans) November 27, 2019
As I reported last week, the plan was to wait to make an announcement until USC knew whether it was in the Pac-12 title game. That outcome isn’t expected to ultimately change the school’s course of action. Mind you, we still have a lot to learn about Mike Bohn and this new administration, so I can’t be definitive about what happens next week. But basing the actual decision, and not just the timing of it, on what Utah does would be pretty short-sighted.
Part of the purpose in waiting was to allow the players to prepare for a title game with their head coach. That wouldn’t be possible if Helton had been dismissed this week; he wouldn’t remain on campus for an extra week while everyone waits to see if the Trojans get in. If that happens and we still don’t hear anything in the ensuing days, the school would be playing with fire (pun intended). You can’t announce you're getting rid of a coach after he’s won the conference championship game and is headed to the Rose Bowl.
What's interesting is that, according to Helton, he and Bohn have not discussed his future and there weren't any plans to do so this week. If there was a path for Helton to keep his job, you'd think that would have been outlined for him earlier. You'd also think they'd tell him by now if they've already made their decision. It would be disingenuous not to. This should all be clear by next week.
As a USC receiver? Perhaps.
Ques: if Bohn makes a horrid decision to keep Helton, what can we as a collected fan base do to express our extreme displeasure? Last year, LA Times refused to print 1 page ad. My fam won’t renew TAF membership..but as a collective what can be done?
— Slade Lin (@Slade_Lin) November 27, 2019
I feel like you guys are doing it by not going to the games. The athletic department is bleeding money.
I’m glad you brought this up. For those that support the idea of giving Helton one more season, it’s presumptuous to say Harrell will be at USC next year. He seems to love USC but he’ll have his opportunities this winter. I could see him being offered a Group of Five head coaching job or an OC job at a top-25 program.
Given how tenuous things would continue to be under Helton, I don’t know what Harrell would choose to do. But it’s not a foregone conclusion that he sticks around. With that said, and I’ve mentioned this before, I think it’s totally possible that he does remain at USC with a new head coach, depending on who that is and what latitude Harrell is given. Right now the offense appears to be all his.
Is there any credence to the rumor that Helton’s buyout is a lesser amount after 12/1?
— Scott M (@scottmmcgregor) November 27, 2019
I don't know, but that’s the word coming out of Heritage Hall. Could be why they're waiting to make a move.
Don’t you think that if Bohn was going to keep Helton, he would have already announced it so the nonstop speculation would stop. The regular season is over sans a Colorado miracle.
— Mitch Stein (@MitchStein6666) November 27, 2019
Yes, if that’s what they’re going to do, waiting doesn’t make a lot of sense, which is one reason why I don’t believe he’s being retained. They’re doing themselves no favors in recruiting right now by keeping it unclear.
If Clay is retained does he still work on discipline or does he party like its 1999?
— WC SC ✌🏼⚡ (@WCfootball4) November 27, 2019
Definitely the latter. Wouldn’t you?
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