Why Do Some Assume Ed Orgeron Couldn't Turn USC Into National Power?

Scott Wolf

Every time Ed Orgeron and USC comes up as a topic of discussion, someone will say, "He could never take USC as far as LSU because USC doesn't care about football as much."

I don't agree with this analogy. USC has routinely put together Top 5 recruiting classes. It competes in a lousy conference. It has a great path to the College Football Playoff with a competent coach.

Orgeron had to beat Alabama last season. When did USC ever have that challenge in a Pac-12 game?

LSU does get better players than USC. But it didn't used to be that way. If you have an Orgeron-type at USC, you can go get anyone.

Does LSU have a different mindset than USC? Absolutely.

But USC can easily become a national power again with competent leadership. It starts with a good coach. If USC had hired Orgeron in 2013, recruiting would have soared. And he was smart enough to realize he needed top coordinators.

Does it really take more than that to win the Pac-12 and become relevant in the national conversation?

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Parcel Man
Parcel Man

I'll admit that it would be harder at SC. You just don't have the support among the administrative elites as they do down in Louisiana. You almost get the idea that some of these educational elites at SC hate football and want to see it fall into oblivion. But SC has many other advantages that none of the other schools have. But he would be head and shoulders above Helton and Sark. Coach O would not be letting this local talent go to Oregon and other places. And he would be recruiting and developing to talent on the O and D lines.

MarquisDeSade
MarquisDeSade

Great track record for Pat Haden: 100% of the decisions he made as the AD were completely devastating to the university and programs.

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gotroy22
gotroy22

It's like Owns was the AD!

Topix Trojan
Topix Trojan

It's been 7 years. Let it go!

marvienna
marvienna

Ed O could have brought USC back to the top, I believe that.

But don't forget that one guy who deserves a fair share of the blame for kicking Ed O to the curb is former associate athletic director Mark Jackson, now the AD at Villanova. Jackson helped lay the groundwork and gave Haden the shove that pushed him towards hiring Sark and screwing Coach O. That guy had no sense of the history of the program and what it means to play tough USC football. He finally had the right people listening to him and he went out and made it like Sark was the only hire to be made. In the article below, former USC football player Riki Ellison even calls Mark Jackson a "stool pigeon" because of the position he was in. Check out Section 6 of the ESPN article below.

And, just to let you know Mark Jackson campaigned hard to be picked as AD this last year. He thought USC fans would forget he pushed for Sark's hire. But I will tell you for a fact that the Committee to Hire the AD last year that solicited comments on who USC should hire received a "significant" number of responses warning the committee to not select Mark Jackson and/or Steve Lopes. And a number of those comments came from employees inside Heritage Hall. The committee was warned those two were poison who were responsible for the sad state of the athletic department today. Mark Jackson, the clueless idiot he is, was oblivious and still came out with Villanova when they came out to USC last year and shook hands thinking he had a shot. Guy will forever go down as the dude who helped hire Sark and he was still dumb enough to try and get the A.D. job. A moron in college athletics and I guarantee you the A.D. community knows he sh** the bed when it came to the 2013 USC HC football hire. Among a small group of A.D.'s, Mark Jackson of Villanova is a laughingstock.

Here is the article. Scroll down to Chapter 6: