New York Giants Mailbag: Pre-Free Agency Edition

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does the number of safeties just cut around the league increase the chance that McKinney comes back (increased supply pushes down his price) or decrease it (more teams looking for a good safety at the lower cap hit for the first year of a contract)?
— Hooti Babootz (@phakenom) March 7, 2024
I don't know that it necessarily increases the chances of McKinney's return. He's still among the youngest safeties and is a guy who's ascending. And I think that a team looking for a safety would rather invest in an ascending player than an older guy whose best years might be behind him.
I’m getting the sense with the decision that the Giants have made with McKinney, Barkley and possibly Jones that Dabol and Shoen are going to put their stamp on this roster and start to rebuild in 2024. Are you getting the same sense? #askPTrain
— Willdog (@Willdog476) March 7, 2024
Totally. Schoen is in the latter stage of cleaning up the mess left behind by the previous regime, and he and Daboll rightfully want their guys in place. Schoen has also set boundaries regarding what he's willing to spend on free agents and has pretty much stuck to his guns. I have no issues with how he's approached free agency other than last year when he signed fifty slot receivers when he could have used that money to get an edge rusher or a swing tackle.
Patricia, do you have any sense if the giants plan on trading down a little to acquire more assets. Trading with the Falcons for instance might still yield them one of Odunze/Nabers and still have added assets that they can use to move up for a QB later in draft or for next year
— Eugene Gozenput (@Egoz77) March 7, 2024
Euguene, I wouldn't rule that out, but it will depend on who is on the board. It could make more sense for the Giants to trade down than up.
Might Joe Schoen & Brian Daboll finally have gotten away from the bad habit of signing Buffalo castoffs and find players elsewhere? Or will the Buffalo pipeline continue?
— Ed Helinski 🇺🇸🇵🇱 (@MrEd315) March 7, 2024
Ed, why is that a bad habit? Last I checked, the Bills have been to the playoffs more than the Giants over the last several years. Does it matter what team a free agent comes from so long as he serves a purpose and does his job?
If the Giants lose McKinney, do you see them pulling the trigger in the 2nd or 3 round on a guy like Cam Kinchens or another safety??#askPTrain
— Freddy (@FreddyJ_23) March 7, 2024
I think they'd probably add some depth to the position, but why does everyone seem to forget about Dane Belton? The kid showed a nose for the ball in his limited snaps. This sort of reminds me of how everyone panicked when Julian Love left and I kept saying keep an eye on Jason Pinnock, who played well for them. I see this as a similar situation. I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see McKinney back here, but I am not sure his leaving would be as catastrophic as some seem to view it.
Based on what you've seen, how secure is Schoen to draft and strategize for a longer rebuild? For example, can they draft a QB in round one if Mara is demanding improvement next season and his job is on the line?
— Ethan Sacks (@ethanjsacks) March 7, 2024
I think John Mara understands that this rebuild will take some time. I also think that barring something out of left field, Schoen will get at least another two years (this year and next). While I hate to use injuries as an excuse, I think the feeling inside the building is that last year's ridiculous rate of injuries was a big factor in the team's demise.
There was also some concern over the lack of development of some of the younger players, which led to a few changes in the coaching staff. So, I think Mara is going to let Schoen do his job and let the chips fall where they may. And so long as some progress is shown—remember, progress is never linear—Schoen will have a job with the team.
You take on how Giants rank the Qb & wr in this year's draft as of now ..
— Dave (@daveydod) March 7, 2024
Dave, you're asking me to compare guys who have never played a snap in the NFL with guys who have, and that's simply not a fair comparison or an apples-to-apples comparison. We know the Giants do not have a No. 1 receiver on their roster. Rome Odunze, Malik Nabers, and Marvin Harrison Jr. all project as No. 1 guys at the NFL level.
At quarterback, scouts seem to be unanimous in their take that Caleb Williams is a generational talent. Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, and J.J. McCarthy are all being touted as franchise quarterbacks. But I'm old enough to remember when Drew Locke, Ryan Leaf, and Dan McGwire were touted as franchise quarterbacks, only to flop.
I'm also old enough to remember that once upon a time, the great Lawrence Taylor came into his first practice with the Giants starting with the third string (true story—I was told that for my book), only to leapfrog to the first-string team by the end of the session. Everyone is different, so I prefer to wait to see what these guys do when they get to the league.
#askPTrain let’s assume Joe Schoen trades up vs sits at 6 and gets a qb. Do you believe the method of requiring said QB adds pressure to the timeline of playing them? Or regardless of how a rookie qb comes, is it in the best interest to sit em & have Dj serve as a bridge in 24 ?
— ReggieReg (@TruthsRebirth) March 7, 2024
No. You can't rush a quarterback into the lineup until he's ready, regardless of how you acquire him. Did the Giants rush Eli Manning into the lineup after trading a small king's ransom for him? Did the Chiefs do so with Patrick Mahomes?
They rushed Daniel Jones into the lineup. How has that worked out for him and the team?
I get it that some teams turn to their rookies right away, but those are usually teams that just don't have a better option. Jones might not be the best option for this team moving forward, but as a potential bridge for a team that I highly doubt will get close to Super Bowl contention in 2024, he'll do unless a better option becomes available.
Do the giants even make McKinney an offer? I don’t see Schoen spending big on a safety, plus if he gets close to Bates $, there’s a chance of netting a top-100 pick in 2025. Can use that $ to get some solid starters at less than 3rd-round-comp value #askptrain
— Mike Veneziano (@MikeVeneziano) March 7, 2024
I think they'll make him an offer, but I also think he'd be foolish not to see what the market offers. Based on the talent that's hit the market recently, I'm not sure if McKinney will get the kind of payday he thinks he deserves, but we'll see how it plays out.
Is there a public list of top 30 visit out?
— Christopher #voteformomo Peace🔥 (@firemedic487) March 7, 2024
There's nothing official that I know of (other than the league's daily personnel reports of which some in the media get the full report while others do not for whatever the reason), but here's a site that tracks that stuff. Personally, I don't put that much stock into the Top 30 visits anyway. It's not like the team is going to base their draft class on those visits, and often, the purpose of those visits varies. For example, some guys come in for another round of medicals, some to do actual whiteboard work with the coaches, and some just to sit down for another round of "get to know you" interviews.
We have an overall lack of talent on the roster - would we not be better off use our first four picks to get some good players in here? Whether it’s DJ or a new QB if they don’t have an OL or some WR’s to throw to it won’t make a difference
— Patrick Collins (@Patrick48539284) March 7, 2024
Patrick, I think you're stating the obvious. I would use the first four picks to bring in new talent. I would not trade up in the first round. I can't honestly say I believe the talk of the Giants considering trading up. I could see a trade down materializing, but I think it would be a mistake to trade up.
Xavier McKinney or Danielle Hunter? Pick one for free agency
— Burner389002 (@Burner35353) March 7, 2024
It's not a fair question as both play different positions of need. That said I think it would cost less to bring back McKinney given how the safety market is taking shape.
(From Tim R.) The simple strategy would be relatively inexpensive free agents (OL, DL), maybe a splash at edge and/or safety, and go after QB, WR, tight end, and depth pieces in the draft. There are too many holes to fill to trade up; give Dabes/Kafka a new QB project for DJ's last season.
Tim, you get what you pay for. I'm tired of this team cutting corners. Didn't we learn anything from their cutting corners a few years ago at backup quarterback when they had Jake Fromm and Mike Glennon?
Yes, it stinks to have to spend financial assets to bring in players developed by other teams. Still, until the draft picks start to bear fruit, unfortunately, that's the way Joe Schoen has to go, albeit hopefully not to the degree that Dave Gettleman did in his final season as general manager.
Who do you want the giants to sign in free agency? Pick a guy that’s high on your board
— perception_football (@perception_juco) March 8, 2024
I don't necessarily have one specific name, but what I really want to happen is this team signing an offensive lineman with guard/tackle flexibility who has played on the right side of the line. So that could be Mike Onwenu of the Patriots or Jermaine Eluemunor of the Raiders.
Is it possible that Waller is using the retirement thing to get the Giants to release him? Any hints of him not wanting to be here?
— sports_feen (@sports_feenz) March 8, 2024
I don't think so. If the Giants wanted to release him, you would think they would have done so already. Waller has said he's enjoyed his time in New York, but any time a player starts contemplating retirement, that's not a good sign, as you have to wonder if he's "all in."
That would be my biggest concern with Waller right now. If he decides to come back, will he be all in, or will he start throwing in the towel at the first sign of adversity?
At 6 would you take the RT from Oregon and at 39 pick McKonkey
— GiveTwo (@bigblue_24_7) March 8, 2024
I keep saying it depends on who else is on the board, but in this case, probably not. I think the Giants will beef up the offensive line with veterans so that unit can hit the ground running and look to use later picks in the draft to find developmental talent.
If I were the Giants, I would make it a high priority to get a No. 1 receiver in this draft.
What do you think the right thing is to do for the Giants? Not what they will do, but what you think the right thing to do is?
— . (@Gixnts) March 8, 2024
Give the local ticket holders a discount on the season ticket prices until the quality of football improves. Okay, seriously, I assume you mean in terms of free agency and the draft. I'd spend for the offensive line and edge rusher, two positions that, in my opinion, MUST hit the ground running this year. I wouldn't skimp on a solid backup quarterback in free agency, either. Given the uncertainty about Daniel Jones's injury history, I'd also draft a young prospect from this deep class.
I'd add a tight end as a free agent and look to add some defensive line depth. I think this team needs a CB2 in the back end of the defense, but because Shane Bowen doesn't play man coverage as much as Wink Martindale did, I think they might have some more potions at that spot.
I'd re-sign Isaiah Simmons, Gunner Olszewski, and Xavier McKinney. I'd let Barkley walk unless he'd be willing to sign for under $10 million per year--I think the Giants want to gravitate more toward being a deep downfield passing attack. While Barkley can help in that regard, I question making him a priority over getting a No. 1 receiver.
Make sense?
I know the draft can possibly answer the WR1 question, but is there any preliminary chatter about free agent WR on the #Giants radar? Either big swings (Ridley) or other mid-range guys (Gabe Davis, Marquise Brown)
— John Vee (@mrwanchuk) March 8, 2024
I haven't heard anything about that, to be honest. This is an extremely deep receiver class, so who's to say the Giants won't double-dip into it and add to the Darius Slayton-Wan'Dale Robinson-Jalin Hyatt trio?
If the Giants can't trade into the top 3. What would be their next QB move? Would they consider McCarthy at 6 or trade back into first round? Or would they pivot to second tier in draft like Nix or Penix? Or would they trade for Fields? Thanks I appreciate the work you do 💯
— John (@RST237) March 8, 2024
I don't think they're trading for Justin Fields. At this point, if they plan to move off of Daniel Jones, let Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll get the guy they want and let Daboll develop him rather than try to salvage Fields.
I wouldn't be shocked if the Giants drafted a quarterback in the second round. We need to see how the board falls, but I don't think I will panic if the Giants don't get a quarterback in the first round, given how deep this class is.
How do the giants get better at finding Oline talent ?
— Tim (@NYGTIM) March 8, 2024
They start by developing the young talent they have, which has long been a problem. Sometimes it's not always the players who are at fault for the results.
Can the Giants realistically afford an elite edge pass rusher if one is available in FA ?
— Chris Palacios (@ChrisPalacios74) March 8, 2024
I think so. I think the two biggest splashes will be edge rusher and offensive line.
In my opinion, Daboll and Schoen would have to do something completely out of left field to lose their jobs. If they draft a quarterback, do you really want them gone after developing that quarterback for one season? Don't you think there was a lesson to be learned from the Daniel Jones fiasco and how the constant change of head coach and offensive coordinator was not conducive to his development?
Who do you want the giants to sign in free agency? Pick a guy that’s high on your board
— perception_football (@perception_juco) March 8, 2024
Mike Onwenu of the Patriots. He provides guard/tackle flexibility. And I think the Giants need to legitimately challenge Evan Neal for the starting right tackle job rather than automatically hand it to him once he's healthy. If he loses the job, plug Onwenu in there. If Neal wins the job, put Onwenu at whatever guard spot is open.
Good morning. I need more info on Spence Rattler are the Giants interested in him. We have too many whole in our roster to trade up. Thank you
— Will Greggs (@WillGreggs) March 8, 2024
The Giants are still doing due diligence on all their options at quarterback, so I doubt many players have been dropped off their board at this point. As for Rattler, he had a solid showing at the combine and on tape, but the scouting reports I've seen project him as more of a QB2/QB3 due to his inconsistency, lack of desired height, and questions about his arm strength.
Why is it never the black QB connected to NYG.. but I can see why most fans believe the whole Giants black QB n HC thing. For gods sake Tyrod was 1st black QB to EVER win a game in NYG uni. Would they draft a black 1 in 1st round #askptrain
— Brito (@iAMBRiTOO) March 8, 2024
Brito, I hope any talent brought in is selected because they are the best available for the job.
Schoen inherited a salary cap mess from the previous regime. Going into the 2024 free agency period, how would you say the team is doing in terms of cap health? Is there reason for medium-to-long term optimism or too early/TBD?
— Jason Metz (@WordOfMetz) March 8, 2024
The salary cap is a lot better than what Schoen inherited. I'm writing an analysis on this, so I don't want to give away my findings just yet, but this has been on my radar for a few weeks, and I hope to get the analysis up before the end of the weekend.
What do you think about signing Wilson and drafting and developing a quarterback behind him?
— Domenic DAlessandro (@DomenicDA) March 8, 2024
To be honest, I'd be surprised if the Giants go that route. They have already said that the expectation is for Jones to start when he's healthy. And I could be wrong here, but I get the impression Wilson might prefer to go to a team where he could start. I wouldn't hate the move if the Giants got Wilso for the veteran minimum.
Your question suggests the Giants dump Daniel Jones; that's not happening this year due to the cap hit. That said, the answer is to let Schoen and Daboll pick their quarterback and develop the kid. I think their plan is to let Jones, if healthy, be the bridge guy.
Patricia! If we cut Jones pre-June 1, his cap hit is $69 million... If we designate him POST-June 1, it's $47 million in 2024 and $22 million in 2025, right? What is he guaranteed with his clause if he's injured in 2024 and can't play in 2025?
— Dave Bowden (@Bowden1113) March 8, 2024
Dave, the Giants aren't cutting Jones this year, pre-June 1 or post-June 1. But to answer your question, a post-June 1 cut results in ZERO savings and a $47.105 million dead money hit this year thanks to the guaranteed money he's owed, with, I believe, $22.2 million hitting the 2025 cap. So let's drop any fantasies of Jones being cut this year because it's not happening (the answer to getting any kind of savings would have been a trade, and that's not happening this year either).
Per Over the Cap's contract notes, $23 million of his 2025 base salary is guaranteed for injury at signing, with $12 million scheduled to vest into a full guarantee at the start of the 2025 league year.

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